PC: We had Nathan, Terry, and Loïck at one point. I think Nathan and Loick are arguably the best at what they do. Nathan is obviously the best skiff sailor—probably—in the world; he's four times world champion, he just won a gold medal in London without even having to sail the medal race. He has a great feel for fast boats, he's 26 years old and he has a great future in multihull sailing. He's the Moth world champion, the Moth is a foiling boat. We're going to be some amount of foiling in these 72s, so that's what Nathan brings to the table. Loïck brings all that I've just mentioned. Loïck is sailing today because it's the first time we're sailing in over 20 knots of wind. Nathan will sail the boat some day, but for his first time we feel that in over 20 knots of wind, the 30 years of experience that Loïck has is unique and an insurance policy of sorts.